This video looks at the electrical installation in this relatively low-tech, liveaboard, cruising sailboat. Conduit, wire size and type, circuits, loads, cable routing, connectors, traceability, etc.
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it's vitapatcha we are building a
cruising sailboat as you
may well know this week it's been all
about
electrics all about electrics this week
i've done very little else
so i think this is probably the ideal
week
to talk to you a bit about the electrics
the way i've done it in this boat um
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see it all in black and white
and painted all so recently
i sit and wonder what we seem to know
how we sure
soon we'll see what it's about
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and the state of play now as we stand
here this evening
is that the main distribution the main
looms or distribution network or
whatever you want to call it
uh in as one or two wires missing but
it's basically
in so as i say i'm going to talk you
through the system i think
and it starts in here
with a rather large battery box
you can see in there and the intention
is to get the biggest battery in there
that i can
possibly fit almost certainly an agm
ned acid battery going in there i
anticipate 200 amp hours something like
that
now i should say that in my opinion at
least
this is this is a very very simple
electrical system i've tried to keep it
as low
takers as i can whilst i was you know
having a functioning comfortable-ish
electrical system so as i say 200 power
agm lead acid battery in there and then
of course it goes from there
up to if you just turn around they carry
up to the switch panel here
and um you know it's a very old switch
panel
i've had it it's been in my possession
for i don't know over 25 years of dsa
but
it functions you know toggle switches
for the various
um things that are running various loads
that are running
off of there and each each load is fused
10 amp views on each load although you
can put smaller fuses in there
obviously good so
let's start with the basics so
shore power comes in at the aft end of
the boat that's probably not a surprise
and from there it runs through a fuse
box and
into the electrical bay where this
victron
energy battery charger will be installed
and through to this switch and
power socket that's the main system
very very simple um from the batteries
the 12 volt batteries we're running
through to the switch panel i've said
that already
i've run my cables in in conduit this is
basic cheap ish conduit that you can buy
at any you know
diy supermarket whatever you used to
call them
comes in different sizes a couple of
different sizes
beauty of this stuff is it's flexible i
clip it up with hose clips like that
these these clips
these p clips just clips up out of the
way
runs through beautifully just have to
put a hole through various bulkheads and
run it through
the first thing i want to say is is that
conduit
if you're putting a new installation in
yourself go for bigger conduit than you
think you're going to need
that's something i've learned on this
build
bigger conduit is better this makes the
job a lot easier i can tell you
so first tip big hundred then
in the conduit obviously i'm running
wires i pulled the wires through with
this this flexi
metal thing poke it through there attach
the wires again put it back through
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yes
several people have told me that uh
you can get wire nice and easily through
conduit by
either a little bit of light fishing
line but a bit of tissue tied to the end
of it and then blowing it through with
compressed air or
sucking it through with a vacuum cleaner
i'm sure it will work wonderfully
i've used that flexible thing so
wireless country
the most important thing for a boat
electrical system
is that you in my opinion
is that your wires need to be big enough
so you need to know what sort of load
you're putting on the various circuits
and i think
each of those switches each of those
fuses is a separate circuit you need to
know what
load in terms of amps you've got on that
circuit
and make sure your wires are big enough
i have used
16 awg all the way through
because theoretically it's not quite
that
straightforward but keep it simple 16 hr
wg
will carry about 20 amps
none of my circuits get anywhere near
that and i say 10 amp fuses
i'm happy with 16 awg i could have used
lighter wire no doubt
but um and it would have been cheaper
and
less weight but
it needs to be robust as well i think
robustness is a
major consideration in cruising
sailboats so i've used 16
awg wire off all the way through
and that's splashed out in the past i've
worked
a while with any old wire i can get hold
of stranded right it needs to be
stranded
and not solid core because stranded is
is
can flex and doesn't suffer from metal
fatigue nearly as much
so stranded wire is important but other
than that you can use anything
and i wired our previous boat our wire
with with that
speaker cable stuffing with the
transparent
insulation on it and it worked fine
but this time i've done it properly i've
bought
tins copper stranded wire with with
silicon
insulation you know not the cheapest
i've got some here
there we go it's lovely and flexible
you can't really see it but it's tinned
copper in the middle beautiful stuff
but if you're doing something like that
the next consideration is
ideally you use a different color for
each circuit so that it's easy to trace
but that involves you buying an awful
lot of
wire different spools of wire so
basically i've used
red and black or this one's actually
claims to be brown i've used red brown
black everywhere now i say 16 awg
everywhere but that's not true
the all of the loads running from the
switches
are running on 16 awg but obviously the
the supply from the batteries up to the
switch panel needs to be bigger because
all of the load is going on that and
i've used 10 awg for that
so i've got two 10 awg cables running up
to the panel
16 running out
and i've tried to keep it relatively
tidy
um in a manner that i know what's going
on there so we've got a negative bus
bar with various loads going out and
i've labeled everything
so it's easy for me to trace despite the
fact it's all the same color red or
black
i know the system i can trace it easily
so there's my system in there so from
the
from the power we run
in conduit up behind these seats
at some terminal blocks that are tapped
up in here out of the way
run forwards to the four cabin lights
through that bulkhead
and another conduit runs under this seat
the top end of this seat through to that
side some more terminal blocks
i'll say about the conduit and all wire
runs i've tried to keep them
up so nothing is in the bilge i've tried
to keep them as high as possible
otherwise as high as reasonably possible
terminal block up in here another
conduit running
aft for the port side supplies
the further around you get the less
wider in the conduit
running aft from the switch panel i've
got this channel that i
i built in there that white still needs
to be tied up but
channel running through so no conduit
well no
no conduit there wires running in the
channel through
to the electrics bay there and through
into the engine room
and a piece of conduit again so in the
end the engine room actually gets
supplied from
from the starboard side going aft and
the port side going after it's got
got electrical supply from both sides so
if you think about the various
loads that we've got the switches
basically serve to remind me
these labels are still the old labels
and i should possibly put new ones on
but
those we've got accessories at the
moment only supplies that
car radio this is actually a marinized
car radio
instruments supplies at the moment the
plotter
but will also supply the um
autopilot blower
is the fan for the stove almost no draw
on that
this one which is unlabeled will be the
fan for the
toilet cabin lights
self-explanatory the cabinet light
system all cabin lights are
led there are 13 cabin lights in total
all led all roughly speaking um
2.5 watts so about a quarter of an amp
a little bit less um so if even if
they're all on we're drawing about four
amps
if all are switched on at the same time
which is an unlikely scenario
so carry light circuit never lights
self-explanatory
bilge pump then we will have a steaming
light
and this one will probably be for the
vhf
vhf it's possible that i end up
replacing this
panel with a bigger one with a couple
more switches vhf to come in
ais transducers to come in probably want
their own switches
so let's say we've got terminal blocks
in hidden away in various places
they're impossible to film i can't show
you them but basically i'm using these
these
is that focused a lot yeah using these
terminals with screws through on the
terminal blocks
and i'm connecting those on yeah
it's not rocket sciences but very old
school let's say this so
just stripping the insulation off
there's the tinned solar wire the tint
stranded wire got these little
terminals
and i'm soldering them on i'm using heat
shrink i'm crimping the terminal onto
the onto the wire and soldering it old
school soldering
now i know there are all these new
fangled things that you with that
it all built in with the heat shrink and
the solder built in you just put a
cigarette lighter under it or something
and i've tried them and i prefer old
school i'll be honest with you
i prefer old-school soldering iron
solder on there obviously with that with
a
electrical or electronic solder so the
flux is not corrosive flux
um and heat shrink it that way i know
that it's soldered well
you know i can inspect it i can see it
i'm happy that it's soldered well
i put the heat shrink on and i know it's
a good job
that's the way i've done it throughout
i've got one
little issue and that is i've tried to
wear the
wirings visible i've tried to run it in
this in this
i bought this cloth stuff conduity stuff
and i hate it i'll be honest with you so
i've just been out and bought
brought some cool ground wood pretty
heavy duty but i'll play it up
and i'm cutting links i can't really
show you kind of be cutting links of
that to
tuck my wiring behind that is horrible
but i haven't got much visible wire so
i haven't got many bits to hide and we
should try to do it a bit nicer than
that
and that's it my boat electrics very
very simple
no fridge you will have noticed um i
shall practice food
storage um simple electrical system i
believe
and that's why i've done it in here and
it's nearly finished obviously i've got
you know when the bits and bobs come in
and need to be connected up
i've now got the distribution network in
so i only need to do a bit of localized
connecting up
for example the plopper is now connected
and working
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wow isn't that beautiful
i agree to that it's not
receiving any gps in the shed or that's
not quite true but it's got very poor
gps reception in the shed
but working looks beautiful i think
you'll agree
that's it for this week the boat
electrical system
i hope that's the some values of some of
you uh specialist video this week
obviously
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that's the bottle here's the pump there
in the line that goes down into that
horrendous filter level's not going down
very quick is it
oh some horrible stinky stuff huh
you